1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 You 2 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,280 There's a dark spirit here I 3 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,920 Can feel it I feel watching me. I'm freaking out this man 4 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,640 Lord her and down in the basement said let's play hide and go seek she died in this house I 5 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,180 Here can you get us back? I just saw something weird over there 6 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:50,920 He's watching us this is her home now. We're not welcome in this house something talking really tight 7 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,160 My name is Ryan and I'm a paranormal investigator 8 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:02,120 When I was a kid my experiences with the supernatural terrified me I've been searching for answers ever since 9 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,280 So when I got to Penn State, I realized I wasn't alone in my quest 10 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,480 So I founded the paranormal research society dedicated to helping those who were haunted like I was 11 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,240 We are students 12 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,240 We are seekers 13 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,920 Sometimes we're warriors 14 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,000 Anytime we help someone I feel like I'm one step closer to finding the truth 15 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,280 This is paranormal state 16 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:35,480 Heather this is a case that you've been handling so why don't you explain to us why you made us drive 12 hours to? 17 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:41,160 Newburg, Indiana. Okay, so we're dealing with a woman named Hillary and her nine-year-old son Hunter and 18 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:47,360 They bought a Victorian house just last December the house is about 116 years old 19 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,880 It's really interesting about the house is it was used for bootlegging 20 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,880 But if you go in the basement, there's all these like secret compartments and crawl spaces and right away 21 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,880 They started renovations on the house and noticed lights would go on and off the garage door would open and shut 22 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:07,300 Things just weren't right and then her son started seeing a shadow figure of a man 23 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,640 so Hillary is obviously 24 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:15,960 Concerned about her son because he won't even sleep in his own bed. They also have EDPs. They got apparently 25 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:22,720 Hillary attempted spirit communication with a little recorder. She just bought somewhere and she picked up a voice 26 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:30,040 So maybe there is something here and hunters just picking up on it. Hillary's afraid for her son on many levels 27 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,480 And she's feeling pretty desperate 28 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:48,880 Hi Hillary, nice to meet you. I'm Ryan. We spoke on the phone briefly. Yes 29 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,680 This is where he saw the first I saw like a 30 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,520 Figure of like a man 31 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:04,200 I kind of like my turn my eyes and then I saw something but then once I turned my head around he like vanished 32 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:12,160 I was right here and then I felt like something walking against me and then suddenly I heard something screaming really loud and high-pitched 33 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,840 Coming from around back here 34 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,200 And that really creeped me out 35 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,600 When the contractors were here, they all hated the basement 36 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,920 I mean the lights would go on and off my garage door that was disconnected would open and close 37 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,320 And in this room, I don't know what you would do in this room. I mean it just seems like a cell 38 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:36,920 You know, there's no shelves. There's no nothing. So this is one of the bootlegging rooms really heavy a cement door 39 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:44,080 These were nailed shut and you would pop it off with the springs and it pops right off and I found the gun 40 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,720 behind this one 41 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:52,160 Real gun it's not loaded. No, and that was in that one 42 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:58,360 Have you looked through all the other secret compartments in the house or you still find in them gosh? 43 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,840 I'm so finding him. I don't think I know all the secrets of this house 44 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:12,560 How come you don't like to stay in your room by yourself my bed started to shake hmm how did it shake like 45 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,080 Kind of like something was like this kind of like 46 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,680 Like kind of like shaking it did that wake you up from a sleeper? 47 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,240 We are I was just getting into bed 48 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:25,480 That's when I started to sleep in the open mom because that's I 49 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,760 Just don't run it's nighttime. It kind of gets a little creepy 50 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:38,160 But you're scared for him right I just worried you I think I'm more scared than he is which is kind of scary in itself 51 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Because he's the one seeing the things right 52 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,560 So hunters talked about this shadow man this this tall black shadow 53 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,360 But the way he says it's not like a shadow on the wall 54 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:56,540 It's like a man figure and he's just everything's black like you can see his features, but it's black any idea who that could be 55 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,680 Do you think it might have some sort of connection with the house? I don't know. I don't think it's good at all 56 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,560 I have no idea. He's watching me and him and I don't feel like it's a good feeling at all 57 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,920 I 58 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:16,620 When I have come to the house there are certain areas I will not go in 59 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:24,140 one being upstairs upstairs and the reason is is I noticed that the locks 60 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:31,640 To the bedrooms were all on the outside of the doors and not on the inside of the doors 61 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,440 Why do you think the locks are in the outside? I still think that there was something going on where? 62 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 At one point 63 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:45,160 During the house's history that people were locked. They had to have been I mean 64 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,160 There is no other answer 65 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,920 Here you play yeah, and then you tap tap taps right there, okay? 66 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,840 I hear something it's so faint yeah 67 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:18,840 Would you mind if my team kind of explores around to see if they find anything else? No go for it. It's fine 68 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,080 Directors log while surging elf explore the trap doors in the basement 69 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,960 I've decided to bring in EVP researchers mark and Debbie Constantino 70 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,120 Hopefully they can pick up any audio anomalies in the home nice to meet you in person 71 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,480 Nice to meet you and I'm Ryan my wife Debbie Debbie. Nice to meet you 72 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,320 Generally I mean you're getting stuff that a whole room full of people can hear 73 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,560 Hopefully yeah, and we'll be hearing as soon as we're recording. We'll just play it back 74 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,960 So it's almost real time, so we'll be able to hopefully get it back in forth 75 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,480 Been going 76 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,960 Okay 77 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,520 Recording 78 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,360 Can you tell us who you're standing closest to? 79 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,440 Let me go check on the other side 80 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:33,360 What's your name can you tell us your name 81 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:47,840 Okay, we're gonna listen back now. This is the one that was just in the closet just now, but we haven't listened back yet, okay? 82 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,880 Oh, it's like saying hello. Yeah, that's pretty clear 83 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,320 What's that 84 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,080 What's your name 85 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,400 I hear can you get us back 86 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:45,280 This is the one that gave me chills this is the one that just sounded weird so nobody was near the closet at the time 87 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:51,880 But you're hearing movement in that closet, so I'll just play it 88 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,720 And let me start over 89 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,400 When it gets to right in here it sounds like it says something 90 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,920 Now that hello we got yeah, it's phenomenal. Yeah. Yeah, I put that a classic 91 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:18,520 So if we go off on the hello that one 92 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:22,220 That sounds pretty legitimate to me 93 00:09:22,780 --> 00:09:23,980 I 94 00:09:23,980 --> 00:09:29,220 Director's log the EVP's captured on tape raised more questions about this home secrets 95 00:09:29,660 --> 00:09:33,340 So I'm bringing in a new psychic to see if she can contribute to this investigation 96 00:09:34,380 --> 00:09:37,100 Hi, Ryan Russo. How are you good? 97 00:09:38,220 --> 00:09:41,820 See you thought maybe if you could give us some insight 98 00:09:42,340 --> 00:09:45,540 Okay, that'd be great. Do you mind if I go? 99 00:09:48,780 --> 00:09:50,340 Walk 100 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:53,600 There's a lot of hidden places in this house 101 00:09:54,820 --> 00:09:56,820 It underneath 102 00:09:57,180 --> 00:10:00,420 Crawl spaces that people used to go 103 00:10:01,180 --> 00:10:04,940 I'm feeling trapped doors in this home. I 104 00:10:05,980 --> 00:10:09,020 Just see people hiding in this space and children 105 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:12,900 There is also a 106 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:16,800 Vision of a man with a beard and and a pipe 107 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,840 Um, I think he lived here or he I 108 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,160 Get a name George very strong 109 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,960 I'm not comfortable with this man George 110 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,760 Because he's been following you guys around the whole house the whole time you're here 111 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,400 He's walking with us by the way 112 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,480 You mentioned you felt as if children were hiding. What do you mean by that? 113 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,600 I felt they used to play in their playtime and they used to go in these trapped doors 114 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,880 This is exactly what I was seeing as far as 115 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,280 Spaces that they would hide in 116 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,720 Feeling like a schoolhouse here. I felt a lot of children in this house 117 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:09,640 Learning children that learned there were classes held in this home and I'm hearing a name 118 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,400 Abby or Abigail 119 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,320 Abby you're Abigail 120 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,280 She's leading me to the spot. I 121 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,640 Can just see that it's a trapped room. Is there a is that a trap door? 122 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,240 Well that may be how she acts as the space 123 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,680 She 124 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:38,400 used to play in here. She says we were playing hide-and-go-seek and 125 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:45,240 And they didn't know where I was so she got trapped she keeps saying they couldn't find me 126 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,240 They were looking all over for me 127 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:53,160 Oh my goodness he lured her into that trap down in the basement 128 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,800 She she died in this house 129 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,760 When I had the guts before all this happened I did go through all those crawl spaces 130 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,040 I found a girl. I found her spelling tablet 131 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:12,040 shoes 132 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,620 A shirt little symbols and such a girl stuff. There's girl 133 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:23,160 Old old old early 1900 wallpaper behind the walls. I just was like, okay, you know 134 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,000 I really need to know if we're going crazy, you know, what's going on here? I 135 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,040 Need you to go to the library 136 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:40,360 As you go all the information you can about this house previous owners, especially this George guy, okay 137 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,840 Anything at all about George and Abby as well as any deaths on the property 138 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,920 The house was built in 1883 139 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,040 Eventually Charles and Barbara von Disher 140 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,520 Okay, but lived in the house 141 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,520 What's there? 142 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:01,560 Um 143 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,040 Possibly yes, her name was Abigail 144 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,320 Okay, apparently she 145 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:12,600 If this do you know if this house was ever used as a school of any kind don't know 146 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,520 Okay 147 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,840 Now in the list of property owners was there George there was a George 148 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:24,080 I 149 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:31,040 Did find in 1930 a George who was an inmate in a state hospital for nervous disease 150 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:40,360 There was George there was a George he lived in the house from 1923 to 1925 151 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,520 apparently at one point 152 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,960 George was 153 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:54,080 In a state hospital nervous disease he was anmate there a nervous disease. Yeah, so Abigail 154 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:01,360 What's interesting is that there was an abbey, but there's not enough information to definitely connect it with this case 155 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:11,240 There is a little girl that did live here at one time where she freaked she was here in this home quite a bit 156 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,280 Not sure if you hear footsteps upstairs quite a bit, but that's her my god 157 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,680 I wonder if that I bet you that was her when I said can you give me a sign that you're here? 158 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:27,880 And there was a duck duck duck like that on my radiator pipes. She likes to play and she likes to play hard and go see 159 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:33,400 There was also a man that was following us all around the house last night who are tripping me out 160 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,960 the only reason he's here is because 161 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,840 He doesn't want to leave without the girl. He's afraid his secrets gonna come out 162 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,920 Apparently one day this man 163 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,120 Lord her and said let's play hard and go seek 164 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:51,240 Mm-hmm, and that's when I saw him and her going opening the trap and going in the basement 165 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,560 He actually did 166 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,560 kill her 167 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,000 For dead time Kim Hillary and I will be in the basement 168 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:09,400 Attempting communication with the alleged spirits of Abby and George while Josh sets up tech in Hillary's bedroom 169 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,040 Is there anybody who wishes to communicate with us? 170 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:19,080 Abby if you're here we have a recorder here if you want to talk to us 171 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:31,840 Got a chill lion yeah, so do I have my feet it's cold 172 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,160 Let 173 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:40,800 Your self be be heard you can make it as loud as you'd like we won't be frightened 174 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,440 Can you make a knocking sound for us? 175 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,320 Here them 176 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,560 Josh is that too 177 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,480 Josh is that tapping from you? 178 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,920 No Ryan it isn't 179 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,560 That's where I thought I just saw something move but 180 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,600 See she's going in and out of this room, which I don't know why she's doing that 181 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,200 Abby if you're here we're here to help 182 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,120 She afraid to leave um 183 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,440 She says that she she's afraid that the man might follow her 184 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,640 He's watching us. I was looking right at us 185 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,160 If there's any male force, I am ordering that force to move away now 186 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,400 And back away because we are only talking to the child 187 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,160 Abigail it's time for you to move on. There's a better place 188 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,600 You're right, I don't know I can't explain it 189 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,480 It's heavy heavy 190 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,280 Heavy pressure internally and I feel it right now and it is so strong and it's 191 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,520 Do you want to go back upstairs? No, you sure I'm positive. We feel a 192 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,000 Heaviness on your chest. Yeah, if you need to step out you can let us know 193 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,800 I'm not making this up. I'm really lightheaded right now. Do you need help? Do you need help standing up? 194 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,280 I'm so sorry. What's going on? Why am I crying? I don't know what's going on. I'm so sorry 195 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:25,040 Why are you clinging on to hillary so much move away from her and give her some space something's holding on really tight 196 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,800 Something's holding on really tight 197 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:42,560 That's the girls that's abby and I feel scared right here right now george stands right there 198 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:49,120 To this dark male force here, this is her home now 199 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,760 You are not welcome in this house 200 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,600 It doesn't want to let go or something. You cannot stay here any longer 201 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,200 You have no control over this child. Let this little girl go 202 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,760 What that was really weird I just saw something weird over there that corner 203 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,560 What did you see most like spirit it just went out that that corner 204 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 He left right there 205 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:26,800 She's not as she's not as clingy to you. Do you feel a little bit better? I just get a little bit of just 206 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,600 It felt like you know when a kid grabs onto your leg she was frightened. That's all 207 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,280 Abigail 208 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,160 We know that's scary because you've been here for a while 209 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,080 It's time for you to move on. There's a better place 210 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,520 A happy place that they call heaven 211 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,280 That's where you deserve to be 212 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,840 I guess what it all comes down to then is why 213 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,280 Are you guys having experiences now? Unlike other people who owned it beforehand? 214 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:17,040 You have a very strong fascination with this house. You're literally gutting it out. Yeah, literally 215 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,280 Yeah, and you're airing it out. And so all of that is probably unleashing 216 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:27,440 Some of the secrets and the spirits that might still be here. My fear. I now realize is the unknown 217 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,360 Not knowing who was him. You know what I mean? Like it is it's a creepy feeling 218 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:36,160 But I know that he can't do anything now. I just you know what I mean? Like at least I know now 219 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,280 I feel validated that there is somebody here and he can't do anything 220 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,200 And I slept like a baby and I just felt this house just feels better. I just feel 221 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Better. I mean hunter slept until 222 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,200 9 30. Okay, my son used to wake up at 6 30 every morning until 223 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,400 Today 224 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,760 But I mean it's just I don't know. I just feel much better 225 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,560 Did you hear who we think this man is? Did your mom tell you? Yeah 226 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,720 We think it's a guy named George 227 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:09,360 Who might have lived here a long time ago and we looked up really old documents 228 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:12,480 And we found there was a george who lived here about a hundred years ago 229 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,640 So it might have been him 230 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:19,760 And he might have been a cranky guy, but he's he's gone. You know, your mom told him he can't stay here anymore 231 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:26,000 He might just be trying to communicate with you. But um, definitely don't do recordings or anything like that 232 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:31,120 So you don't have to do all that but if you want to when you get older you want to kind of do this stuff 233 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:32,320 We'll be waiting 234 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,320 if you want to hop on 235 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,040 On the bus and go around investigating things 236 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,000 Final director's log 237 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,760 The evps and kim's visions about george and abby certainly validates the family's own experiences 238 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,360 Although it's hard to definitively prove the existence of ghosts 239 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:57,520 We least gave this family some peace of mind. These are two st. Michael cards 240 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,680 They're blessed than the two benediction medals. Thank you so much 241 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,320 Thank you so much 242 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,360 Definitely 243 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:11,920 I hope our visit gives both hillary and hunter the tools they need to deal with any more surprises 244 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,820 From behind the trap doors in their basement 245 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,680 You